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embassy in benghazi, libya. that attack killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans and at the very start of that hearing john kerry came to the defense of secretary of state hillary clinton under fire from someone on the right for not testifying today due to illness. >> secretary clinton is recovering from a serious virus and concussion and given her condition it was simply not possible for her to appear here today. i assure you it is not her choice that she is not here today and she looks forward to appearing before the committee in january. >> the co-chair of that committee senator bob corker indicated he still wants to hear from secretary clinton herself. >> i think it's imperative that she come before this committee and i think it would be a shame to turn the page on this and go to a new regime without her being here and i do look forward to that happening when her health permits. >> mark, it's good to have you here. senator corker calling for clinton's testimony, meanwhile, the fallout from benghazi and the att
embassy in benghazi, libya. that attack killed u.s. ambassador chris stevens and three other americans and at the very start of that hearing john kerry came to the defense of secretary of state hillary clinton under fire from someone on the right for not testifying today due to illness. >> secretary clinton is recovering from a serious virus and concussion and given her condition it was simply not possible for her to appear here today. i assure you it is not her choice that she is not...
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she did not have line of authority for security for our consulate in benghazi. that wasn't her job as ambassador. i thought giving her the outs, as i just said, and giving her her very good service in the obama administration, i really thought that she was qualified for this. >> governor o'maley, this, as the governor said, wasn't even in her portfolio. president obama said today in a statement while i deeply regret the unfair and misleading attacks on susan rice in recent weeks, her decision demonstrates the strength of a character and an admirable commitmented to rise above the politics of the moment. now, you and i certainly may admire what she's done and say that it is certainlyly that it is certainlyl showing a stateswoman-like quality. but it's certainly doing an unfairness to her and may never address it to those who never had it in her purview and correct it if they felt it needed correcting. >> well, i think, sadly, ambassador rice was a target of opportunity for a party that tends to spend a lot more time and a lot more energy on obstruction. so i thin
she did not have line of authority for security for our consulate in benghazi. that wasn't her job as ambassador. i thought giving her the outs, as i just said, and giving her her very good service in the obama administration, i really thought that she was qualified for this. >> governor o'maley, this, as the governor said, wasn't even in her portfolio. president obama said today in a statement while i deeply regret the unfair and misleading attacks on susan rice in recent weeks, her...
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the aftermath of the september 11th attack in benghazi. in the letter ambassador rice also expresses her gratitude for the president's confidence and support and assures that she will remain as ambassador at the unions. let's get to our panel. with me in new york is jonathan alter, who is with bloomberg view, and professor michael eric die sorn ayson and ari melber w nation." >> i think this is the sad resolution of what amounted to a right wing witch hunt against ambassador susan rice. i think, first of all, wrongly laying responsibility for the fiasco at her feet. secondly, when facts subsequently came out to suggest that she was marrily repeated what she had been told in terms of intelligence, they were still unrelenting, and then thirdly what this does is displace a highly qualified person for secretary of state from the obama administration who happens to be a person of color and a woman. a rhodes scholar, a doctoral recipient from oxford university, an extraordinary broad career at the state department so to speak in terms of foreign
the aftermath of the september 11th attack in benghazi. in the letter ambassador rice also expresses her gratitude for the president's confidence and support and assures that she will remain as ambassador at the unions. let's get to our panel. with me in new york is jonathan alter, who is with bloomberg view, and professor michael eric die sorn ayson and ari melber w nation." >> i think this is the sad resolution of what amounted to a right wing witch hunt against ambassador susan...
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plus, the fact that this would open a whole benghazi investigation. >> as you know, andrea, there is a commission that's reporting soon to the secretary of state on benghazi, but, as you know, once a nominee is named, you basically go into a very silent period, so if either ambassador rice or senator kerry were nominated, they would have to go into a very quiet period, and until the actual hearing took place, which probably wouldn't take place in january anyway, there would be no comment, no visibility by either one of them. i don't think that's so much of an issue because neither one of them would be out there doing some defense of themselves or some arguments against them. it would allow the chattering class to let loose once either one of them is nominated with the pluses and minuses of either one of them, but as far as their own individual involvement, they wouldn't be able to be visible to the actual hearing anyways. >> and speaking of the secretary of state who you say would be willing to stay on until a successor is confirmed, hillary clinton, now, a week ago, there was an ext
plus, the fact that this would open a whole benghazi investigation. >> as you know, andrea, there is a commission that's reporting soon to the secretary of state on benghazi, but, as you know, once a nominee is named, you basically go into a very silent period, so if either ambassador rice or senator kerry were nominated, they would have to go into a very quiet period, and until the actual hearing took place, which probably wouldn't take place in january anyway, there would be no comment,...
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consulate in benghazi. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that at 48 years old, susan rice would have been the youngest woman ever to become secretary of state had she been confirmed. condoleezza rice was 50 when she was nominated by george w. bush back in 2004. enough for the real news. let's gather around that water cooler to watch politics ukrainian style. the newly elected ukrainian parliament had their first session yesterday. shortly into the day, this erupted. on the floor, a mass fist fight between the ruling party and opposition. the two sides were arguing over voting rules when opposition members stormed the podium, punching, grabbing, bite, choke holes and body slams. and full nelsons? also there, but not seen in the pictures, boxing heavyweight and gre great, klitschko. when asked why he wasn't getting involved, klitschko simply said, quote, i understand many people want klitschko to launch an offensive but i would like to remine them the fists a world champion are considered nu
consulate in benghazi. if you want to sound smart today, tell your friends that at 48 years old, susan rice would have been the youngest woman ever to become secretary of state had she been confirmed. condoleezza rice was 50 when she was nominated by george w. bush back in 2004. enough for the real news. let's gather around that water cooler to watch politics ukrainian style. the newly elected ukrainian parliament had their first session yesterday. shortly into the day, this erupted. on the...
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she probably had the least to do with the attack on benghazi. why she was targeted individually for the kind of attacks that she was subjected to is -- it was puzzling to me. >> the process also seems to be playing out with one of obama's top picks to lead the pentagon. the president was quick to praise republican former nebraska senator chuck hagel, but was just as quick to say he hadn't made up his mind. >> i haven't made a decision about who to nominate. >> anything disqualify him? >> not that i see. i have serbed with chuck hagel. he know him. is he somebody who served this country is w veil valor. >> he ran into stubborn resistance over the weekend from senate republicans like lynndie graham and tomko burn. >> there would be little republican support. there will be very few votes at the end of the day. >> i cannot vote for chuck hagel. >> why? >> simply because of the positions that he has taken and some of the statements that he has taken. >> meanwhile, epa administer lisa jackson's decision to step down also has many doubting whether the
she probably had the least to do with the attack on benghazi. why she was targeted individually for the kind of attacks that she was subjected to is -- it was puzzling to me. >> the process also seems to be playing out with one of obama's top picks to lead the pentagon. the president was quick to praise republican former nebraska senator chuck hagel, but was just as quick to say he hadn't made up his mind. >> i haven't made a decision about who to nominate. >> anything...
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he was quick to point out congress should take some blame for what happened in benghazi. >> i want to be krystal clear about something else. congress, also, bears some responsibility here. congress has the power of the purse. adequately funding america's foreign policy objectives is not spending. it's investing. >> this morning's hearing marked by sharp questioning by republican senators. >> secretary clinton just sent up a notification to congress asking for $1.3 billion. why did she never ask for any notification or change of resources to make sure benghazi was secured? >> we are in a situation where the middle east is evolving. democracies are growing. militaries are forming and we must look at each and every one of those sites and every one of our posts and reexamine it under a new normal. >> you were aware of the security risk there. we have read the cables. you were fully aware. and either you sent people there with security or you don't send them there. >> and a hearing by the house foreign affairs committee started an hour ago. nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donne
he was quick to point out congress should take some blame for what happened in benghazi. >> i want to be krystal clear about something else. congress, also, bears some responsibility here. congress has the power of the purse. adequately funding america's foreign policy objectives is not spending. it's investing. >> this morning's hearing marked by sharp questioning by republican senators. >> secretary clinton just sent up a notification to congress asking for $1.3 billion. why...
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mission in benghazi and elsewhere at high-threat places around the world. this, of course, the attack on 9/11 that killed chris stevens and three other americans. bob corker serves on the senate foreign relations committee and heard testimony during the closed session with the committee today. there will be open sessions tomorrow. they just briefed at the state department, in fact, that's still in progress. senator, one of the conclusions is that security was -- that there were security failures there, before, during, and after, but particularly before and during, that they were relying on the local militia, which was completely grossly inadequate, the reports said. what are your conclusions following the briefing that you received from the top leaders? >> well, i had seen films, andrea, last week of both the security cameras, but also later from drones. it was later in the evening, but the security personnel we had out front literally jumped on a truck and left as soon as they saw a crowd coming, so -- >> you're talking about the libyans, not the americans
mission in benghazi and elsewhere at high-threat places around the world. this, of course, the attack on 9/11 that killed chris stevens and three other americans. bob corker serves on the senate foreign relations committee and heard testimony during the closed session with the committee today. there will be open sessions tomorrow. they just briefed at the state department, in fact, that's still in progress. senator, one of the conclusions is that security was -- that there were security...
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you have the benghazi report this morning. you've got the talk about the fiscal cliff, which underneath it suggests that government should do more with less, and the state department to some extent is a manifestation of that. it's actually an incredibly well managed bureaucracy. however, over the years it has been systematically underfunded. when a defense budget goes to the hill, congress -- members of congress go what can we add to it? when the foreign relations budget goes to the hill, the reaction is what can we subtract from it because it's not the same political constituency. >> i want to bring in our panel here. you know, josh, we -- there's been so much back -- there's so much politicizing over everything from, you know, the fast and the furious, attorney general eric holder, the benghazi events that were certainly tragedy iic, the loss of life, the loss of the u.s. ambassador. it has been so embroiled in politics and you add a clinton to the mix, and it gets even more political, and i will call your attention to charl
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this as both the house and the senate are taking up the benghazi report. nick, this report was pretty devastating for the state department. you've quickly pointed out that congress also has a role in properly funding their security at these outposts. >> well, it was a very hard-hitting report. there are a lot of lessons here that the state department is going to have to think about. rework some of the procedures and rededicate themselves to this mission of our embassies and consulates overseas. there's nothing more important. i think secretary clinton was right to send the letter this week to the congress she would accept all the recommendations and begin to implement them and i believe that she will do that and her team will do that, as well, but there is on the side of this, andrea, the fact is the state department budget as a percentage of the federal budget is quite small, it is not fully funded for the last few years and the security request, that's the request for funds to protect the diplomats, to solidify the infrastructure of the embassies to supp
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i know the senate is the confirming body, not you, but does this end the controversy over benghazi, or does that continue and need to be investigated? that, the panel having spoken, and hillary clinton having promised to follow-up. sfoo no, there's still a long ways to go to get to the bottom of benghazi, and making sure it never ever happens again. i'm sure that senator kerry will be easily confirmed from the senate. i think he is a good and decent person. i probably disagree with him on most every issue, but many terms of being a good person, i'm sure he will be confirmed, but we have as to go on benghazi. >> your committees have said you want to hear from hillary clinton? >> absolutely. she was the person in charge. we have four dead americans. we have -- think about it. in a 60-day period a group said there are more than two dozen systemic failures. they offered 60 recommendations. what in the world has been going on over there to have so many problems? >> let's talk about gun control because the national rifle association has responded, and basically said let's stop the bad guys w
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senate hearing digging in to what happened before, during and after september 11th's deadly attack in benghazi, libya. john kerry leads the look into what went wrong. we'll have the latest in just minutes. good morning from a very busy washington. it's thursday, december 20th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown," the second shortest day of the year. let's get right to my first read. if talks on the fiscal cliff are going to be rescued, they have got to be rescued today. but the more you see the president and speaker boehner talking in public, the less they are talking behind the scenes. leaving negotiations stalled just 12 days before the new year. the speaker is now spending his third day working to pass a bill that will not become law. maybe it will start a framework for a backup plan but it's not going to be a law. and it won't probably be part of any final budget deal. the house will vote today on boehner's plan b which democratic leader harry reid had said will go nowhere in the senate. and the president has promised to veto it if it somehow got to him. in a 52-second, well it was a press c
senate hearing digging in to what happened before, during and after september 11th's deadly attack in benghazi, libya. john kerry leads the look into what went wrong. we'll have the latest in just minutes. good morning from a very busy washington. it's thursday, december 20th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown," the second shortest day of the year. let's get right to my first read. if talks on the fiscal cliff are going to be rescued, they have got to be rescued today. but the more you...
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but from benghazi to ben affleck. that just happened. >> well done. >> that transition just happened. benghazi to ben affleck, also one of barbara's most interesting or fascinating people. i object. i object because if you are one of the most overexposed celebrities on the planet, i don't think you can still be fascinating. he was fascinating maybe in 1999 when we didn't know literally everything about this man. but even though he has gone through some metamorphosis, he has gray hair, a father, he is old, gray hair, he is choosing good roles finally, i don't find him fascinating. >> i was bored by him more than a decade, he was like the quint essential guy famous for being famous, what he basically informs the 2000, the us aughts. i saw "a go," i saw it a few weeks ago, stuck with me. i'm fascinated how a guy could be that boring for so long and then suddenly become interested. >> but you're -- you're talk bag previous ben affleck a guy of "goodwill hunting" cannot be famous for being famous. >>> immigration could be
but from benghazi to ben affleck. that just happened. >> well done. >> that transition just happened. benghazi to ben affleck, also one of barbara's most interesting or fascinating people. i object. i object because if you are one of the most overexposed celebrities on the planet, i don't think you can still be fascinating. he was fascinating maybe in 1999 when we didn't know literally everything about this man. but even though he has gone through some metamorphosis, he has gray...
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consulate in benghazi that left four americans dead. four state department officials, including the security chief have left their jobs under pressure. those changes come less than 24 hours after an independent review blamed the department for what it described as grossly inadequate security lapses, both before and during the september 11th attack. while secretary of state hillary clinton has said she's ultimately responsible, the chairman of the investigating panel suggests the security lapses occurred further down in the chain of command. >> we fixed it at the assist and the secretary level, which is in our view, the appropriate place to look, where the decisionmaking in fact take place, where if you like the rubber hits the road. >> the secretary of state has been very clear about taking responsibility here. it was, from my perspective, not reasonable in terms of her having a specific level of knowledge. that was very specifically resident in her staff and over time. certainly didn't bring that to her attention. >> secretary clinton
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richard, it's going to help and first of all, i think the benghazi report was a solid one. it was a huge tragedy losing four of the individuals including the ambassador, but if you look at that report, it says it's an important element, funding from the congress report, for security and our embassies overseas is needed. the state department has a very good, diplomatic security bureau and in fact, one of the four people that resigned, eric bosswell i knew. he's very talented and it's a tragedy what happened and what kerry will be able to do is say to the congress look, we need more funding to protect our consulates, our diplomats and embassies and people overseas and i'll bet you that because he's a man of the congress he will get very good funding for this department. >> we'll see how it does work and how it may help and if he tries to get funding for the department and his style is known to be more face-to-face. as we know, secretary clinton is the most traveled secretary of state. does this mean that he'll be traveling more and what will his perception be of the key regio
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mostly in new york city for benghazi is really a stretch. she was the werngs who went out on sunday television. and she said today to brian williams that she is not blameless. i think there was a lack of care with the talking points and the republicans seized on it and claims she was being political and trying to be political at a key point in the presidential election campaign, which she strongly denies. >> but you're saying that the president's statements to that effect were not enough because they were not backed up with essentially procedural support for her to be fighting these attacks that could have happened had he nominated her. >> once she's nominated she is armed with the white house counsel's office-w every wise person, man or woman in washington who would be assigned to her to get her through the nomination process. but she was left -- she said she didn't feel that she's a victim here, but she certainly did acknowledge to brian that she thinks politics played a part. and i don't think there's any way to deny that. now, the fact t
mostly in new york city for benghazi is really a stretch. she was the werngs who went out on sunday television. and she said today to brian williams that she is not blameless. i think there was a lack of care with the talking points and the republicans seized on it and claims she was being political and trying to be political at a key point in the presidential election campaign, which she strongly denies. >> but you're saying that the president's statements to that effect were not enough...
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you have the fiscal cliff, you have the new cabinet, the benghazi report, immigration. and then you what do you think the likelihood is because i can tell you having sat in newtown for five days, there was this immediate sense from virtually everyone i spoke with that something could finally happen this time, but can it? >> well, chris, i saw all your reports from friday on. and the pain that the people were feeling. but i can't be as optimistic as i would like to be right now because i've been through this too many times starting with covering the outrage after columbine where people talked about curbing some gun -- putting some gun restrictions, there is also talk about hollywood and values, back in '99, the video games were quite the issue it was. there are all kinds of talk and we never had anything. this time, well, maybe things are a little different if for no other reason than the power of social media, letting people organize better on this issue, can cross the aisle on it. and i think for a lot of people, this may be an issue we're compromising on. what the whi
you have the fiscal cliff, you have the new cabinet, the benghazi report, immigration. and then you what do you think the likelihood is because i can tell you having sat in newtown for five days, there was this immediate sense from virtually everyone i spoke with that something could finally happen this time, but can it? >> well, chris, i saw all your reports from friday on. and the pain that the people were feeling. but i can't be as optimistic as i would like to be right now because...
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on benghazi, the hearings will be held tomorrow. i think that certainly on the senate side they will be polite. two top officials, the two top deputies are going to be testifying. but this has been a devastating report there is no way to sugarcoat it. it basically said there is systemic fault in the state department. and it goes all the way back at least until 1998, that the improvements that had been ordered in 1998 after the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania have not been done. and that there are security failures at high-threat posts all over the world. >> andrea, i think about the relationship of the state department to the other giant in the american government in terms of our relations and our outposts around the world. and that of course is the defense department. anybody close to the missions of those two departments talks about how much the state department is dwarfed by the pentagon in budget and in what they're consequently able to do. is this the sort of thing where the state department just isn't capable, hasn't be
on benghazi, the hearings will be held tomorrow. i think that certainly on the senate side they will be polite. two top officials, the two top deputies are going to be testifying. but this has been a devastating report there is no way to sugarcoat it. it basically said there is systemic fault in the state department. and it goes all the way back at least until 1998, that the improvements that had been ordered in 1998 after the embassy bombings in kenya and tanzania have not been done. and that...
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>> which of course always should have been the focus of the benghazi story, rice's decision presents the president with a cabinet that looks like an america problem. the cabinet in the -- looking like a leading candidate for the secretary of defense. if kerry is a shoe in, does that change the calculus four hagel? or for white house chief of staff, kevin liu. former advisors under secretary clinton re-emerge as top candidates for treasury. if kerry ends up being a nominee for secretary of state, there would be a challenge for his senate seat. here's senator scott brown, in his farewell speech on the senate floor which oh, by the way happened to be yesterday. >> defeat is temporary, depending on what happens and where we go, all of us, we may obviously meet again. >> there you go. after rice's announcement yesterday, the massachusetts democratic party tweeted this. bring it on. in case you're wondering, the way the math works, assuming john kerry's resigned the senate seat after he's confirmed and that happens around january 20th, 21st. we're looking at a mid to late june special elec
>> which of course always should have been the focus of the benghazi story, rice's decision presents the president with a cabinet that looks like an america problem. the cabinet in the -- looking like a leading candidate for the secretary of defense. if kerry is a shoe in, does that change the calculus four hagel? or for white house chief of staff, kevin liu. former advisors under secretary clinton re-emerge as top candidates for treasury. if kerry ends up being a nominee for secretary of...
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was announcing his nomination of kerry, republicans were on the hill attacking susan rice over ben benghazi this afternoon. >> the word she told on 16, september was completely out of line with reality on the ground. i just thought she was very eager to tell a story that did not make a lot of sense. i believe to suggest this thing was anything other than a terrorist attack fit a political narrative. >> i think senator kerry will be confirmed. i don't think there will be a huge dust up about this. there may be no dust up at all. people in the senate know him. republicans have said how much they respect him. but i want to say a word about susan rice. i know her and i've worked with her. she's a person on enormous talent and enormous integrity. you listen to the stuff we just heard. you're tempted to buy a line from history. senator, have you no sense of decency left? to suggest that this person who has given a lot to this country, somehow or other, was intentionally misleading americans is wrong. and i have some news for them if they don't like her. guess what, she's going to be around for th
was announcing his nomination of kerry, republicans were on the hill attacking susan rice over ben benghazi this afternoon. >> the word she told on 16, september was completely out of line with reality on the ground. i just thought she was very eager to tell a story that did not make a lot of sense. i believe to suggest this thing was anything other than a terrorist attack fit a political narrative. >> i think senator kerry will be confirmed. i don't think there will be a huge dust...
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ambassador to the united nations answering questions about the attack on benghazi. >> it wasn'ta unusual, i have done sunday shows many times in the past. secretary clinton had originally been asked by most of the networks to go on. she had had an incredibly grueling week dealing with the protests around the middle east and north africa that it envol lopped our embassy. she consoled the whole state department and greet the families and the boths. she declined to do it. and i was asked by the who is if i would do it, as the next senior american diplomat. >> would it have been a whole different thing if hillary clinton had done those shows that day or would there still have been a fight over susan rice? >> we can't know, it's impossible to know if something else would have come up and she would have found herself answering for this controversy in other ways. i do think that we saw when susan rice went to capitol hill and attempted to make peace, not only with the senators who seemed set against her like john mccain, but senator who is seemed more open to considering her like susan collins,
ambassador to the united nations answering questions about the attack on benghazi. >> it wasn'ta unusual, i have done sunday shows many times in the past. secretary clinton had originally been asked by most of the networks to go on. she had had an incredibly grueling week dealing with the protests around the middle east and north africa that it envol lopped our embassy. she consoled the whole state department and greet the families and the boths. she declined to do it. and i was asked by...
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. >> the susan rice/benghazi witch-hunt, what is your reaction to that? >> well, keep in mind john kerry is barack obama's first choice. susan rice wasn't a choice. she got tied up into the politics of benghazi. but this is who the president likes, believes in. kerry gave obama that great nominating speech slot in 2004. but kerry has been able to be bipartisan in the true sense. he has been able to cut deals and work with senators -- senator murkowski is a friend of his from alaska, for example. this is going to be one of the best appointments, selections that the president could have made. and most people on capitol hill feel the same. >> quickly, will he go through confirmation easily? >> he will go through. i think vicki kennedy will come in and be the senator for that interim period. it's 145 to 160 days until governor deval patrick is going to set that up. i think he is probably going to run for senate. >> interesting. great to have you with us, professor. thank you so much. >>> coming up, the owner of some big-name chain restaurants sees profits plu
. >> the susan rice/benghazi witch-hunt, what is your reaction to that? >> well, keep in mind john kerry is barack obama's first choice. susan rice wasn't a choice. she got tied up into the politics of benghazi. but this is who the president likes, believes in. kerry gave obama that great nominating speech slot in 2004. but kerry has been able to be bipartisan in the true sense. he has been able to cut deals and work with senators -- senator murkowski is a friend of his from alaska,...
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that was in response to the benghazi report. jamaal simmons, secretary clinton has been teflon, if you will, susan rice attracted all of the criticism in the early days and yet this report puts it right at the doorstep of the state department and she runs the state department. >> before the election, she came out and said i accept responsibility. and the recommendations came out, she said i will accept all the recommendations from the report. i think she's trying to do her best to own this as from a responsibility perspective. she's a popular person. people think she's done a good job at her job. >> certainly was a -- she was supposed to testify tomorrow. we know due to illness, she can't. deputies will testify in her place. she may testify in january. some say she better testify before john kerry's confirmed. >> it is the illness that launched a thousand conspiracy series, quite skeptical. but the incentives changed for republicans. during the campaign, they preferred to pin this on obama herself. hillary is a popular figure. t
that was in response to the benghazi report. jamaal simmons, secretary clinton has been teflon, if you will, susan rice attracted all of the criticism in the early days and yet this report puts it right at the doorstep of the state department and she runs the state department. >> before the election, she came out and said i accept responsibility. and the recommendations came out, she said i will accept all the recommendations from the report. i think she's trying to do her best to own...
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yom who has been out front ripping susan rice apart in front of the media over benghazi. why isn't he going after hilary? >> well, i think he's scared of her. i think many people are scared of her. hell i'm scared of her. hillary clinton is sitting at 70% approval ratings in the country right now. that's a far rise from where she was when she left as first lady and the same for bill clinton. his numbers are through the roof as well. i expect those numbers to come down as we get closer and closer 2016. if john mccain actually were concerned about what happened in benghazi he should be hauling secretary clinton up to the hill to have an inquiry. she's secretary of state. they are responsible for embassy security but he won't do it. >> jimmy, thank you. >>> the other reason that the rice fight matters host of escalating tensions throughout the middle east. israel is feeling heat today from europe over its decision to expand settlements in the west bank and east jerusalem. at least three countries summoned israeli ambassadors to condemn the action. in egypt new protests today
yom who has been out front ripping susan rice apart in front of the media over benghazi. why isn't he going after hilary? >> well, i think he's scared of her. i think many people are scared of her. hell i'm scared of her. hillary clinton is sitting at 70% approval ratings in the country right now. that's a far rise from where she was when she left as first lady and the same for bill clinton. his numbers are through the roof as well. i expect those numbers to come down as we get closer and...
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then after he got out of that one he starts talking about benghazi and all this other stuff and lost that one argument. could he have won if he said, i'm the guy you need for this job. >> part, you need to go back and show why the policies were going to work. for example, if you take a look at 2003 bush tax cuts, by 2007, $800 billion more revenue had come in and the deficit was cut from $370 billion to $260 billion. did you hear him say that? that's what he needed to do, full-throated defense of republican policies that bush implemented but also he could have used to show why his policies would work. ultimately when you make it a referendum, you take the arguments off the table. >> do you buy that he should have defended all the republican policies of bush and his own? >> no, because those policies got us in trouble in 2008 in a great many ways. bush inherited a surplus and left with a massive deficit. didn't monitor the financial system and so on. the most important point is david's right about, which is there's no such thing as a presidential referendum election. i've covered ten
then after he got out of that one he starts talking about benghazi and all this other stuff and lost that one argument. could he have won if he said, i'm the guy you need for this job. >> part, you need to go back and show why the policies were going to work. for example, if you take a look at 2003 bush tax cuts, by 2007, $800 billion more revenue had come in and the deficit was cut from $370 billion to $260 billion. did you hear him say that? that's what he needed to do, full-throated...
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the benghazi first of all was not front and center. so she was put out as the highest ranking diplomat to speak that sunday. i think it was a job audition, i think they welcomed the opportunity to have her go out on five shows to show her stuff. she stuck to the talking points. i was on the same show and we were listening and watching and it did seem immediately to those of us watching that it was not adequately conveying the full complexity, but you understand when someone is going out nervously and sticking to the -- she would have been criticized more if she hadn't. >> again, listen, her argument wasn't credible, i understand why republicans were upset about that performance, four days, five days after they found out from general petraeus that they knew that al qaeda was involved, that it was a terrorist attack. but let's just strip this down and talk about what it was really about, politics. they were upset and you take it to the debate and candy crowley getting it wrong on what the president said and when he said it, the white hou
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consulate in benghazi. and now there are new questions about a possible conflict of interest. let's bring in congressman gregory meeks, democrat from new york. also a member of the house foreign affairs committee. thanks for swinging by on this saturday afternoon, congressman. >> good being with you, craig. >> first of all, is ambassador rice, is she the candidate that you would like to see put forth? >> ambassador vice a brilliant woman. i've known her for a while. she is from the clinton administration. i've senn her work. she is a rhodes scholar. she has done excellent work as the u.n. ambassador. i think she would be a great secretary of state. >> do you think that she is the woman who ends up getting nominated, or do you think at the end of the day we'll end up seeing someone perhaps like a john kerry? >> that's up to the president of the united states, of course. but i would say he has a wide selection of individuals to choose from. but susan rice would be on the very top of my list, that's for sure. >> what do you make of all of this opposition? do you think that some o
consulate in benghazi. and now there are new questions about a possible conflict of interest. let's bring in congressman gregory meeks, democrat from new york. also a member of the house foreign affairs committee. thanks for swinging by on this saturday afternoon, congressman. >> good being with you, craig. >> first of all, is ambassador rice, is she the candidate that you would like to see put forth? >> ambassador vice a brilliant woman. i've known her for a while. she is...
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but have we seen the full fallout from benghazi yet? >> not yet. there's still areas that i'm sure congress is going to want to explore. and i think that senator graham sing correct, that secretary clinton should be asked questions that she apparently was not asked during the course of the investigation. and be held accountable for them. i think that she will be. i think she will testify very forthrightly and one of those issues where, you know, you said at the top of the department and not everything comes to your attention. what the report cited was xroes inadequacies in terms of leadership and management skills at that bureau level and the question is did any of that information ever get to her and if not why not. what can be done to prevent that in the future. you can't be 100% in preventing it in the future. but steps can be taken, secretary sclin ton has said there's a 29 recommendations she endorses fully and those have to be implemented and secretary kerry, when confirmed, will be carrying those out. >> any concern the republicans when maki
but have we seen the full fallout from benghazi yet? >> not yet. there's still areas that i'm sure congress is going to want to explore. and i think that senator graham sing correct, that secretary clinton should be asked questions that she apparently was not asked during the course of the investigation. and be held accountable for them. i think that she will be. i think she will testify very forthrightly and one of those issues where, you know, you said at the top of the department and...
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you don't need to expend all this political capital on what is going to be an interminutable benghazi investigation. john mccain signaling he wants to go on the foreign relations committee, he was going to lead the way. >> let's get this from chuck as well. do you think that clinton, secretary clinton or former president clinton, they have done this i know in private, said what they thought about this, they were for kerry. did they ever express that for lobby for kerry or against rice in this case do you know? >> it's my understanding they didn't. i think that hillary clinton understood where the president's loyalties lie, that he was leaning towards susan rice and she wasn't going to start a debate and try to -- and i think, in fact, those close to secretary clinton really tried to snuff out those stories that secretary clinton wanted kerry over rice, didn't want to have rice replace her. i think she stayed out of that a lot. so i don't think that they were going to step into that at all. i mean, i know there's always been speculation that susan rice and secretary clinton weren't clo
you don't need to expend all this political capital on what is going to be an interminutable benghazi investigation. john mccain signaling he wants to go on the foreign relations committee, he was going to lead the way. >> let's get this from chuck as well. do you think that clinton, secretary clinton or former president clinton, they have done this i know in private, said what they thought about this, they were for kerry. did they ever express that for lobby for kerry or against rice in...
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he is just one of many threads involved in the benghazi attack. several other reports of individual being arrested in tunisia that may also have connections. for right now there's no confirmation as to what role he precisely played. nbc news, cairo. >> thank you for that. >>> another note on benghazi, secretary of state hillary clinton will testify before open hearings on the benghazi attack report. report expected to be released next week with the hearings following shortly thereafter. >>> developing now nbc news has confirmed nelson mandela is undergoing tests in a hospital. the spokesperson for former south african president says the tests have been planned for some time and are consistent with his age. the country's current president says mandela is doing fine and there is no cause for alarm. the 94-year-old was last admitted to the hospital in february. >>> new duelling arguments today in the fiscal cliff war of words. with just 24 days and counting, president obama and senator marco rubio in the republican address are racheting up the rhetor
he is just one of many threads involved in the benghazi attack. several other reports of individual being arrested in tunisia that may also have connections. for right now there's no confirmation as to what role he precisely played. nbc news, cairo. >> thank you for that. >>> another note on benghazi, secretary of state hillary clinton will testify before open hearings on the benghazi attack report. report expected to be released next week with the hearings following shortly...
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do you believe the benghazi incident disqualifies her to be secretary of state? >> it will prevent her being confirmed until the white house comes forward with the answerses to all the questions all of us have been asking. what happened on the 16th of september when she went on the talk shows and talked about blaming the attacks in benghazi on an anti-muslim trailer in the united states when, in fact, we've come to learn that intelligence people knew it was a terrorist raid and we had no explanation as to why we couldn't protect our ambassador and lost our first ambassador in the line of duty since 1979, if those questions aren't answered then there's not going to be a confirmation in my judgment. >> all right. i have to leave it there. georgia republican senator johnny isakson, thanks for coming on. >> thanks, chuck. >>> optimism over the fiscal cliff is fading in washington but not on wall street. they continue to believe a deal is coming. the market rundown is next. and from secretary of state to new york city mayor, michael bloomberg's crazy speculation today
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president's first choice but she with drew her name from consideration after pressure with what in benghazi. in making the announcement the president praised senator kerry's years of military and public service. >> having served with valor in vietnam, he understands that we have a responsibility to use american power wisely. especially our military power. and he knows from personal experience that when we send our troops into harm's way we must give them the same strategy, clear mission and the resources that they need to get the job done. >> senator kerry is the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. he's expected to be easily confirmed. up next it's being called the lowest moment of john boehner's speakership. >> while we may have not been able to get the votes last night to avert 98.9% tax increase, i don't think -- they weren't taking it out on me. >> who were they taking it out on? what is the gop's next move. politico says the drama changes the dynamics in the fiscal cliff negotiations. congressman sandy levin will join me. and michael will be hosting "hardball." he'll ta
president's first choice but she with drew her name from consideration after pressure with what in benghazi. in making the announcement the president praised senator kerry's years of military and public service. >> having served with valor in vietnam, he understands that we have a responsibility to use american power wisely. especially our military power. and he knows from personal experience that when we send our troops into harm's way we must give them the same strategy, clear mission...
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as you'll recall, chris, she wasn't able to testify on the incident in benghazi as she was initially scheduled to. she also, because of her health, wasn't able to attend the president's announcement of her replacement, senator john kerry. she has been out of the picture for quite some time. after the kerry announcement she released a statement, praising the choice, john kerry was the right decision. but still she has been in a state of recovery for quite some time. >> let me interrupt you for a second. we did get a statement now from phillip rains at state department, kristin. i want to read it for folks so that they know the absolute latest. sorry for the intrusion on your sunday night, but we want to update you on the secretary's health. following statement is on the record. in the course of a follow-up exam today, secretary clinton's doctors discovered a blood clot formed stemming from the concussion she sustained several weeks ago. she's being treated with anti-coagulants she's at new york presbyterian hospital to monitor the medication over the next 48 hours. her doctors will co
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but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me want to examine the whole situation. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be confirmed by his colleagues. >> if the president wants an easy confirm nation hearing. >> massachusetts would have to hold a special election to fill his seat. scott brown lost his race to elizabeth warren. >> during his farewell speech yestarerday yesterday. >> victory and defeat is temporary. >> depending on what happens and where we go, all of us may meet again. >> after learning about ambassador rice's withdraw the party tweeted bring it on hash tag massachusetts senates. the democrats got cute when john kerry was running for senate. they created this thing where you have to have an erosion. and then 150 days or somewhere you have this election. and so, it looks like the democrats feel confident enough that they can hold on to the seat. >> oops. here comes scott brown again. i think this is so irritating. you have the republican members of the senate deciding who the next secretary of
but i don't have anything in his background like this tragedy in benghazi that would make me want to examine the whole situation. >> i think john kerry would be an excellent appointment and would be confirmed by his colleagues. >> if the president wants an easy confirm nation hearing. >> massachusetts would have to hold a special election to fill his seat. scott brown lost his race to elizabeth warren. >> during his farewell speech yestarerday yesterday. >> victory...
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and a report on the attack in benghazi has been sent to congress ahead of hearings later on this week. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." has the political power of the nra peaked in the wake of the newtown shootings or are they just laying low waiting for the storm to pass. since friday they've been absent from the discussion on guns. today they released a statement saying they've been quiet, quote, as a matter of common decency, but they are planning -- in fact, they have a press conference set for friday. according to "the new york times," it has an established precedent for responding, quote, over the years the nra has perfected its strategy for responding to mass shootings. lie low at first, then slow roll any legislative push for a response. has something fundamental shifted in the guns debate however since friday or will it be business as usual with the nra calling the shots? in a moment mayor michael nutter of philadelphia will be with us. he's the head of the united states conference of mayors, and mark glaze is executive director of mayors against illega
and a report on the attack in benghazi has been sent to congress ahead of hearings later on this week. now back to "hardball." >>> welcome back to "hardball." has the political power of the nra peaked in the wake of the newtown shootings or are they just laying low waiting for the storm to pass. since friday they've been absent from the discussion on guns. today they released a statement saying they've been quiet, quote, as a matter of common decency, but they are...
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rice's sunday talk show round up after the september 11th attacks in benghazi, libya put her in front to provide information. as it turns out, she had not written the material she delivered that day and was not dishonest about her understanding of the attacks. funny thing, they don't have to be there to play the game. the biggest there that wasn't there in politics, another presidential adviser with talking points. secretary of state hopeful making the case for her administration's national security strategy. this time, the talking points led to a war that killed thousands and had has a decade long lasting effect. in 2003, when condoleezza rice made the rounds, she was in no uncertain terms paving the path to war in iraq. later when condoleezza rice was going through confirmation hearings, her role in selling the war was not lost on senate democrats, yet, she made it through the nomination process because her side, the republicans chose to fight the fight. somehow, the fight this time around, despite the troubling thin reasons for opposition became not worth having. perhaps because th
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>> "clinton: i take blame for bengha benghazi." she has the awareness to more closely than i think we have heard before describe on the record what we know about it. and to be contrite. you've seen her do this multiple times but in less showy forums. you've seen the president do this when she was questioned about opposition to susan rice. she will do it in this format we're all very aware of the theatricality of. we've kind of already heard republicans drop off the benghazi issue. they started it by proposing so many hypotheticals that have now been proven wrong. i think she can close many pages of the book with a good performance this week. >> you just used a word. theatricality. is that a slate word? did you just make that up? >> i think of it whenever i see people, member of congress, preening and trying to get witnesses to embarrass themselves on tv. i think of that word. >> matt welch, what's the headline? >> "benghazi syonara." we have strange coptic christians now in jail. we have david petraeus' sex life and strange society
>> "clinton: i take blame for bengha benghazi." she has the awareness to more closely than i think we have heard before describe on the record what we know about it. and to be contrite. you've seen her do this multiple times but in less showy forums. you've seen the president do this when she was questioned about opposition to susan rice. she will do it in this format we're all very aware of the theatricality of. we've kind of already heard republicans drop off the benghazi...
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diplomats in benghazi. joining us now from washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski who's the author of "strategic vision: america and the crisis of global power." dad, good to have you on. >> and you need to call him the great hunter. >> yes, he is a hunter. and former democratic congresswoman from california and director and president of the woodrow wilson center, jane harman. and bob woodward still at the table as well. good to have you with us today. where do we begin? benghazi? >> let's start with the benghazi report. dr. brzezinski, what was your take on it? >> it's a powerful report. it points the finger where the finger should be pointed. it seems to me that as i understand it, some people are resigning. that's probably proper, even though sad. at the same time, i don't feel that people should be pointing fingers at the secretary because in a big bureaucracy, in a big government, a lot of decisions are made at different levels. and, of course, there'
diplomats in benghazi. joining us now from washington, former national security adviser for president carter, dr. zbigniew brzezinski who's the author of "strategic vision: america and the crisis of global power." dad, good to have you on. >> and you need to call him the great hunter. >> yes, he is a hunter. and former democratic congresswoman from california and director and president of the woodrow wilson center, jane harman. and bob woodward still at the table as well....
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she suffered from a fall after a virus and the concussion and as you know was not at the benghazi hearings yesterday. we reported last thursday when susan rice withdrew that kerri was the choice. the question was timing. they didn't want to go too long, but of course there is a funeral today which kerry and the president will both be attending for senator daniel inouye. that was something else that delayed the timing. it was originally supposed to be this morning that john kerry would be nominated and that funeral won't be over until 10:00, rather about noon at the national cathedral. after that back at the white house there will be an announcement. it is not going to be what was originally contemplated, the entire national security team, cia, defense, a bit of controversy over chuck hagel. the president has been strongly considering chuck hagel for defense secretary and still is we are told. he has not backed off of that. there is fierce opposition building up, the same lobbying campaign that frankly torpedoed susan rice, and there is a lot of thought in democratic circles outside the whi
she suffered from a fall after a virus and the concussion and as you know was not at the benghazi hearings yesterday. we reported last thursday when susan rice withdrew that kerri was the choice. the question was timing. they didn't want to go too long, but of course there is a funeral today which kerry and the president will both be attending for senator daniel inouye. that was something else that delayed the timing. it was originally supposed to be this morning that john kerry would be...
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preferred to be named as swu state or even potential for swuf state and used that against her on this benghazi piece. they actually had a masterful strategy. it was disgust and depickable, but it actually was pretty well played out. >> the other name is chuck haggle for defense. i think name twoing white men in the same week when you just saw an african-american woman who is well qualified, overly qualified, get treated that way, and the new cabinet that looks like -- probably not a smart strategic decision. it may be a while before we get those names kind of facilitied out a little bit. >> i think the strafing of susan rice was despicable, but i do think the nomination of any secretary of state or any cabinet appointment is an opportunity to probe what this administration's foreign policies are. i would like to hear barbara boxer, tom udall raise questions about what are the president's powers in the "war on terror?" do you believe climate change is a clear and present danger. what are you going to do about a global check recovery? what are you going to do about the hyper militaryization of o
preferred to be named as swu state or even potential for swuf state and used that against her on this benghazi piece. they actually had a masterful strategy. it was disgust and depickable, but it actually was pretty well played out. >> the other name is chuck haggle for defense. i think name twoing white men in the same week when you just saw an african-american woman who is well qualified, overly qualified, get treated that way, and the new cabinet that looks like -- probably not a smart...
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why'd he go after benghazi for two weeks? why'd he change from business experience? >> i have no idea. and, you know, really you almost saw what happened. it's like all of a sudden they woke up and said my god we can win this thing and didn't keep on the same path. everybody started kind of taking credit for that one good night instead of trying to recreate it night after night. >> let's cut ahead now. i love what you said about david axelrod and saying the guy wouldn't sell his religion. he couldn't sell the good work he did with relief society and looking out for members of his lds group. he couldn't do that without selling the philosophy of the religion? >> there were family and friends that wanted the campaign to emphasize things romney had done. that was who he really was, talk about that. and a at the convention there was an effort to have a moving video. the problem is this ran before the networks broadcast in primetime, the commercial networks. and then in primetime of course was clint eastwood. so the message that got out was not -- >> that was a hail mary,
why'd he go after benghazi for two weeks? why'd he change from business experience? >> i have no idea. and, you know, really you almost saw what happened. it's like all of a sudden they woke up and said my god we can win this thing and didn't keep on the same path. everybody started kind of taking credit for that one good night instead of trying to recreate it night after night. >> let's cut ahead now. i love what you said about david axelrod and saying the guy wouldn't sell his...